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Talk About Anything>Nearly 1 in 3 british whites are victims of racial prejudice.
Tashry 12:55 PM 12-08-2008
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2544...-services.html

This seems to be affecting mostly working class whites rather than middle class whites.
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Jack Black 01:40 PM 12-08-2008
The Sun also reported this story today.

To whit:

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One-in-three white people in the UK believe they are victims of racism in key public services.

The number who think they face discrimination has soared by 50 per cent in eight years, a Government survey revealed last night.

New figures show 29 per cent of whites consider they will be treated worse than other races in public services such as housing, schools, GPs and the police.

The figures have rocketed since 2001, when only 20 per cent feared discrimination. Over the same period, the numbers from ethnic minorities worried about racism in public services fell from 38 per cent to 34 per cent.

The worst area is housing – a quarter of whites felt they lose out, said the poll by the Department for Communities and Local Government. One in ten expect racism in the justice system. Around six per cent of whites think they face discrimination by police. And three per cent insist they will be treated worse than other races in schools.

The survey also showed... 58 per cent of whites believed there was more racism in Britain than five years ago. But only 32 per cent of people from ethnic minorities consider there was more prejudice.

Baroness Warsi, shadow minister for community cohesion, said:

'It is no wonder more people feel there is an increase in racism when Labour is forever talking up what divides us.'

1 in 3 white UK residents believe they are‘racism victims’ | The Sun |News

I put the following underneath the article in the Have Your Say section:

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Will the "one-in-three" continue to vote for those who saw to it that they became "victims of racism", I wonder?

Will the extra "50 per cent" forget their outrage when the establishment promises them that THEY will "learn the lessons" by the time the next election rolls around?

Will the "one in ten" who "expect racism in the justice system" be voting for someone who will root out such anti-British practice and put them first in the future?

Will the "six per cent of whites" who "think they face discrimination by police" and the "three per cent" who "insist they will be treated worse than other races in schools" put their "X" against the Nationalist candidate next time round?

Did those "white people" who "thought racial prejudice was getting worse" ever sneer at Enoch Powell, as the politicians, the PC Crowd and the press instructed them to?

And do the British people think that the only reason for the increase in anti-White racism is because "Labour is forever talking up what divides us", as Baroness Warsi suggests?

In February 2006, Warsi was seen in an edition of Newsnight.

She was debating the relative demerits of the mickey-taking Danish cartoons and the placards that had been paraded through the streets of London by a large group of angry Muslims as a consequence.

She didn't seem to bothered overmuch by the placard-carryiers and played down their behaviours thus:

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I think we need to engage in dialogue… I think if you saw some of the placards… I thought they were very interesting… They said 'We want to engage in debate; we want to engage in dialogue; we just don't want to be insulted'.

The lady wasn't being entirely honest in her assessment of the placard wielders, however. The following slogan was chanted repeatedly during the protest.

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UK, You will pay, Bin Laden is on his way!

And the placards weren't quite as inoffensive as she implied either. Indeed, they said things like:

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Behead those who insult Islam! Exterminate those who slander Islam! Kill those who insult Islam! Europe, you'll come crawling when the Mujihadeen come roaring! Europe, remember 9/11! And Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer.

Despite all of this, Warsi preferred to reserve most of her criticism for the cartoonists and condemned them thus:

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I AM A PRACTICING MUSLIM and I felt that those cartoons were very offensive… They, actually, attacked at the very heart of what is crucial and so sacred in the Muslim faith.

Changing her line of attack at this point, she said:

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We will have extremists, we heard Nick Griffin (leader of the BNP) earlier, I think people like Nick Griffin, and, unfortunately, people like Abu Hamza and Omar Bakri, I say they are all the same, they're peas in one pod, they all preach hate, they all divide society.

And, then, she added this:

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I think that the best thing for all of them would be TO STOP ABUSING OUR FLAG AND TO GET OFF OUR ISLAND! TO GET OFF OUR ISLAND!

So, so as well as, allegedly, wanting the Muslim fanatics, Abu Hamza and Omar Bakri to "get off our island", she wanted an Englishman to "get off our island", as well!

I wonder who Warsi was talking about when she used the phrase "OUR ISLAND" twice?

She obviously wasn't talking about British Nationalists. You know, those whose ancestors are all buried here who don't vote correctly? (Politically correctly, that is) I have a feeling she may not have been talking about the "one-in-three" who saw themselves as "victims of racism" as well.

Now that New Labour is widely preceived to be a busted flush, I wonder how many of the one-in-three will be voting for a Conservative Leader who thinks it right and proper to promote a jumped-up, over-promoted, second-generation immigrant Brit-loather, like Sayeeda Hussain Warsi, to the position of Vice-Chairperson of the Conservative Party?

I wonder whether the one-in-three would be happy with the new Tories creating an entirely new Departments of State like the Department for Community Cohesion and Social Action, for a person like Baroness Sayeeda Hussain Warsi to preside over?

I have this funny feeling that the practicing-Muslim-our-island lady would be a tad more inclined to take "social action" against me, Nick Griffin, the BNP and the one-in-three, than she would be inclined to "cohere" with us.


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Shaun 01:52 PM 12-08-2008
"And the study reveals that ethnic groups living in the UK feel stronger ties to the country than native whites."
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The Bear 02:33 PM 12-08-2008
One in three?

It’s a good start.

When the number gets closer to more than 95% then it’ll be closer to the situation relative to non-white people.

The white people are now reaping what they’ve been sowing. Good good good.
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Internationalist 02:44 PM 12-08-2008

Originally Posted by The Bear:
One in three?

It’s a good start.

When the number gets closer to more than 95% then it’ll be closer to the situation relative to non-white people.

The white people are now reaping what they’ve been sowing. Good good good.

In what way is it good? It only makes harder the task of those who wish to see an end to all prejudice and discrimination.
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The Bear 03:01 PM 12-08-2008

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In what way is it good? It only makes harder the task of those who wish to see an end to all prejudice and discrimination.

That is very true, it would be much better if there was none, but until there is a widespread understanding by white, or rather to be correct very pale brown people of what non-white, or to be more correct darker brown people have to face day in and day out little further progress will get made.
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whypatcondellisntfun 04:28 PM 12-08-2008

Originally Posted by Tashry:
Whites fear discrimination by public services - Telegraph

This seems to be affecting mostly working class whites rather than middle class whites.

Tell me, Tashry, did you read the story you quote? The first line says

Some 29 per cent of people surveyed think public sector workers discriminate against them in favour of other ethnic groups.

There is a world of difference between somebody saying "I think I have been discriminated against" and them actually being discriminated against. For you to take that and say "Nearly 1 in 3 british whites are victims of racial prejudice" is wrong as this is in no way proven.
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whypatcondellisntfun 04:36 PM 12-08-2008
The survey also states that

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The survey found that 29 per cent of white people expect to be treated worse than other groups by at least eight of the public services including police, prisons, courts, Crown Prosecution Service and local housing organisations.

Well surely this can be proven objectively? I'll take a stab in the dark and say that Indigenous Caucasians (to borrow a term form the BNP) are treated better with regards to the CPS, police, prisons and courts. But conversely, people who are not Indigenous Caucasians, I imagine, will be treated better by the housing services (mainly because there are specialist groups dedicated to helping minorities in these things).

Anybody have any actual hard and fast evidence? I'll start the ball rolling shall I? The Lawrence Enquiry found that the police was institutionally racist. I'll give you a bonus tip. There aren't many people in the police who are not Indigenous Caucasian, as the BNP would put it, so who do you think the police are institutionally racist against?
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Lazyguy 12:42 AM 13-08-2008
:-)
Willy!
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Jack Black 02:15 PM 13-08-2008

Originally Posted by whypatcondellisntfun:

The Lawrence Enquiry found that the police was institutionally racist.

Diane Abbott, MP for Hackney North & Stoke Newington, (who is black) used the phrase "institutional racism" in a House of Commons debate on 9 June 1992, 6 years before the phrase was immortalised in the McPherson report.

She borrowed it from Stokely Carmichael, the US black-power revolutionary, who originated the phrase in the 1960s. Carmichael's own philosophy can be neatly summed in this uncompromising statement of intent:

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Black people should and must fight back… Those of us who advocate Black Power are quite clear in our minds that a ‘non-violent’ approach to civil rights is an approach black people cannot afford and a luxury white people do not deserve.

The above quotation can be found in Carmichael's 1967 work, Black Power: The Politics of Liberation in America.

In a speech given at Berkley, California, in 1966, Carmichael final words were:

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We’re tired of trying to prove things to white people. We are tired of trying to explain to white people that we’re not going to hurt them. We are concerned with getting the things we want... The question is, will white people overcome their racism and allow for that to happen in this country? If not, we have no choice but to say very clearly:

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'Move on over, or we’re going to move over you.'

Interesting that Carmichael would threaten to "move over" the white folks, after assuring them, in the previous sentence, that he and his ethnic kinfolk were "not going to hurt them".

As it happens, Blacks are known to have murdered or manslaughtered 179,808 white folks in the USA, between 1965 and 2004. So Carmichael's promise not to hurt whitey seems to have been a little bit hopeful.

The Steven Lawrence Inquiry was presided over by Lord William McPherson and three others.

McPherson was assisted in his deliberations by Tom Cook, a retired Deputy Chief Constable of West Yorkshire Police; John Sentamu, a Ugandan cleric who is now the Archbishop of York, and Dr Richard Stone.

Stone is the President of the Jewish Council for Racial Equality and Vice-Chairman of the Brit-loathing Runnymede Trust. He is also the founder and co-Chairman of Alif-Aleph UK, (British Muslims and Jews) he is a member of the Home Office’s Working Group, Tackling Extremism Together, and he is also the Chairman of the Commission on British Muslims & Islamophobia.

Stone is, of course, Jewish.

On 26 February 1999, The Sun carried a report of an Old Bailey trial the previous day.

This concerned the gang-rape of a fifteen-year-old girl by eighteen "youths" at a derelict warehouse in Hackney. This article was tucked away on page 25 of the paper whilst the front page was dominated by a Lawrence Enquiry headline. The Sun report did not specify the colour of the rapists but subsequent enquiries established that they were black.

No other national newspaper mentioned this horrific incident at the time.

However, all of them devoted acres of space to the McPherson Report.

This had been released on 24 February.
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