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Jack Black 07:32 PM 18-08-2008
On 18 August 2008, the Sun article, “The Guy Who Loved Me”, informed us that “MI5 is recruiting gay spies" and added:

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It has also set up a gay and lesbian 'network' to help gay staff at MI5… to come out...

Stonewall director Ben Summerskill said he was 'optimistic' MI5’s gay and lesbian staff numbers would reflect modern Britain in ten to 15 years.

It’s a far cry from the days when MI5 barred gays from sensitive roles after two members of the Cambridge spy ring which passed secrets to Russia in the 1950s were found to be gay.

The guy who loved me | The Sun |News

The comment that I tried to put underneath the article was not accepted so I created the new discussion, MI5 Recruiting Gay Spies.

Please add you own comments to this here:

Sun Online - Discussions - News - MI5 Recruiting Gay Spies!

Doing so will keep the points raised in the mind of the Sun-reader for longer than it would if nothing is said.

In MI5 Recruiting Gay Spies I say this:

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The Cambridge spy ring, so casually mentioned by The Sun, provided the most notorious and destructive spies this country has ever known.

Burgess, Maclean, Philby and Blunt spied for the Soviets before, during and after WWII.

Guy Burgess and Anthony Blunt (a distant cousin of the Queen who was never charged with any crime) were homosexual.

Kim Philby was bi-sexual.

It is rumoured that the 'fifth man' in the spy ring (or possible sixth man) was Victor Rothschild, governor of the BBC, Chairman of the N.M. Rothschild banking house, confidant and adviser of Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher, Ted Heath and Harold Wilson.

The 14 April 2003 edition of The New Statesman told us us this:

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Victor Rothschild … argued in 1944 that British and American military secrets ought to be given to the Russians… he knew Guy Burgess and Anthony Blunt rather more closely than he liked to admit in later years. Rupert Allason, the former Conservative MP who is otherwise known as the spy writer Nigel West, claimed that he was a Communist Party member at Cambridge in the 1930s.

Check out Rothschild’s provenance in the essay 'Spies and Bombs' at the iamanenglishman webs site.

Rothschild is, of course, Jewish, as was Kim Philby's wfe.

The essay, Spies and Bombs can be found here:

I Am An Englishman
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david H 07:51 PM 18-08-2008
Now, now Jack don't mince your words. Kim Philby was half Jewish. As was Ruth Ellis. But then De Gaulle, castro and Franco were of Jewish origin. The fly in your ointment is that Jewish people marrying out is so widespread that it is nigh on impossible to accuse them of following one particular line. As our own representative The Bear could explain to us. The "Feminisation process" applies to them as well as us. The Transexual winnerof The Eurovision song Contest a few years ago was an Israeli and don't forget Andy Warhol, Lou Reed and that Lucas.
It is not promoting certain behaviour for us - their communities are coming apart like ours and the Rabbis must be besides themselves.
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Tony Bennett 07:52 AM 19-08-2008
Not enough gays are winning Olympic medals. Of 10,500 people in the Beijing Olympic village, only 10 are 'openly gay:

Beijing 2008 - Only ten gays in the village - Yahoo! Eurosport UK

Yet the proportion of gays in Parliament and in the main mass media is much higher than in the population as a whole

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whypatcondellisntfun 10:07 AM 19-08-2008

Originally Posted by Jack Black:
Rothschild is, of course, Jewish, as was Kim Philby's wfe.

Personally, I'm not bothered about the religion of Rothschild, but I am perturbed that the Rothschild name keeps coming up with regards to delicate international politics.

Am I right in thinking the Rothschild you are referring to is part of the same stinking rich family who can basically meddle in the affairs of sovereign nations simply because they have the money to do so.

Gadzooks people.
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Seasider 11:15 AM 19-08-2008

Originally Posted by whypatcondellisntfun:


Am I right in thinking the Rothschild you are referring to is part of the same stinking rich family who can basically meddle in the affairs of sovereign nations simply because they have the money to do so.

Gadzooks people.

Yes you are right, except that I reckon they don't just meddle, but control.
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Jack Black 12:03 PM 19-08-2008

Originally Posted by david H:
Now, now Jack don't mince your words. Kim Philby was half Jewish. As was Ruth Ellis. But then De Gaulle, castro and Franco were of Jewish origin. The fly in your ointment is that Jewish people marrying out is so widespread that it is nigh on impossible to accuse them of following one particular line. As our own representative The Bear could explain to us. The "Feminisation process" applies to them as well as us. The Transexual winnerof The Eurovision song Contest a few years ago was an Israeli and don't forget Andy Warhol, Lou Reed and that Lucas.
It is not promoting certain behaviour for us - their communities are coming apart like ours and the Rabbis must be besides themselves.

Kim Philby was half Jewish?

Now if I ever knew that, I'd forgotten it.

My own investigations tell me that the half-quarter-eighth-Jewish gambit is a bit of a red herring in terms of the let's-not-bother-about-them-then thing.

It CERTAINLY bothers the Orthodox Rabbi considerably but, in terms of the real movers-and-shakers who rule the earth, the more part-Jews who can be persuaded to take pride in the Jewish bit of their ancestry (to the detriment) of the rest, the better. Such pride is easily instilled by the way. All that needs to be done is to show the part-Jew in question how much more profitable networking with Uncle Sol happens to be, compared with hanging out with Uncle Syd at the match.

If there were 5,000,000 pure-bred Jews on the planet, wouldn't it be a wizard wheeze if these could get a 100 million not so pure part-Jews looking out for them?

It's a masonic thing.

The gang doesn't just look after its own, it is prepared to look after those who are not fully paid up members as well. Particularly when the initiate has talent, merit, ability or kudos of some description to bring to the table.

As long as he who enters here is prepared to pledge his life and soul to the brotherhood, that is.

It's not the blood that has made the Jew behave in such a machiavellian fashion over the millenia, it's the mindset. Fundamentally, it's the supremacism and the exclusivity of the Talmudic religion and the way this has encouraged an "us-and-them" attitude in the tribe, that has made the tribe so hostile to the rest.

And then there are the "nice" Jews.

Our pals. Our girlfriends, best-friends and wives. The ones who, behind the scenes, might grab hold hold of the lapels of the Orthodox and spit fury in our behalf.

Thing is, how often do these speak out against their own in public? How often do they leave the room mumbling "racist" when we mention something that doesn't chime with the Jew-approved wisdoms of the age?

And how often have these hurried off to fight for the cause when danger looms? No matter who is in the right or wrong?

Anyway, it's not the full or the one-eighth Jew anywhere but in the most elite and secretive of Jewish wedding ceremonies. Everywhere else it's how far is the sayanim/part-sayanim prepared to go on behalf of the brotherhood.
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Tony Bennett 08:56 PM 19-08-2008
Jack Black, your latest post informed us that The Jews:

"...rule the earth,
seek profit,
get not-so-pure part-Jews looking out for them,
have Masonic link-ups,
look after their own,
behave in a machiavellian fashion,
have a machiavellian mindset,
are supremacist,
are exclusivist,
have an ‘us-and-them’ attitude,
are hostile to the rest of us, and
are elite and secretive".

Did you miss anything else out that we should know about them?

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Besoeker 11:24 PM 19-08-2008

Originally Posted by Tony Bennett:
Yet the proportion of gays in Parliament and in the main mass media is much higher than in the population as a whole

Are there reliable figures for either of those assertions?
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Tony Bennett 01:03 AM 20-08-2008
Besoeker,

At the latest count, I believe there are at least 6 Labour MPs, 3 Liberal Democrats and 5 Conservative MPs who are openly gay - making 14 out of 630 - just over 2%. I believe the proportion of openly gay members of the Lords may be about the same.

The international average of gays in the population is from 1% to 2%.

This article from the U.S. on Jossip - The gossip's gossip sheet - Insider media and celebrity industry gossip hints at the influence of gays in the media, for which I have no figures:

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This year's Out Power List, not to be confused with the magazine's Out 100 issue, documents the top 50 influential gays and lesbians — even if they won't admit to it. (That's why Andy Cooper's No. 3!)

Though the cover is an ad for Brothers & Sisters, stars Matthew Rhys and Dave Annable (who's been known to stay the weekend where we live) are not of the homosexual variety, but show creator Jon Robin Baitz is! Reference this later when you're curious how EIC Aaron Hicklin chooses straights for the mag's cover.

****Plenty of media folks make the list****, from Gawker's bachelor-no-more Nick Denton and GQ's Jim Nelson (both friends of Hicklin …), to MTV/Logo's Brian Graden, New York's Adam Moss, and the list's No. 12 spot: The New York Times Gay Mafia, which includes Richard Berke, Ben Brantley, Frank Bruni, Stuart Elliot, Patrick Healy, Adam Nagourney, Horacio Silva, Stefano Tonchi, and Eric Wilson. But you probably already knew that from the Facebook group.

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You might also find this 2006 'Independent' article, 'Gay Power -The Pink List', listing Britain's 101 most powerful gays, of interest:

Gay Power: The pink list - This Britain, UK - The Independent

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Jack Black 08:55 PM 22-08-2008

Originally Posted by Tony Bennett:
Jack Black, your latest post informed us that The Jews:

"...rule the earth,
seek profit,
get not-so-pure part-Jews looking out for them,
have Masonic link-ups,
look after their own,
behave in a machiavellian fashion,
have a machiavellian mindset,
are supremacist,
are exclusivist,
have an ‘us-and-them’ attitude,
are hostile to the rest of us, and
are elite and secretive".

Did you miss anything else out that we should know about them?

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I missed lots and lots and lots of stuff out.

The above was an off-the-top-of-the-head answer.

If you are REALLY interested in knowing the score, check out the Jewish sections in Big Brother at the iamanenglishman web site. Alternatively you might take a look at He Fights for Them in the same section of the same site.
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