Originally Posted by mrabody:
Yes we do have a product to sell - but who is the intended buyer? None of the three establishment parties seems to be interested? If you mean we are selling to the public I agree, but to what purpose? Presumably to get enough MPs elected to Westminster to either become the government, or at least enough to scare the government of the day into acting.

But, given that UKIP as a political party has never run anything, not even a parish council, why should the voters put their trust in us? And since voters place the EU well down on the list of issues on which they base their votes, that means we will have to develop other policies.

I'm sorry but there is no magic bullet that will kill the EU monster dead. We need to get MPs in Westminster and to do that we will first have to get town, local, and district councillors elected.


I noticed that you still don't offer an ALTERNATIVE STRATEGY - you just say that it's time for a change - that and fifty pence will buy you a chocolate bar but it won't get you out of the EU.

WE will NEVER get enough MPs at Westminster in time. So the stategy and tactics need to be specific to getting us out the EU asap. Who can get us out the EU? Westminster - so we MUST concentrate all our efforts in INFLUENCING Westminster. Pressure pressure pressure needs to be applied in the right places as well as educate educate and educate the public. On this last point you need healthy branches and loads of support and encouragement from the centre. UKIP couldn't even manage a LT leaflet in time. UKIP has no policy under Nigel apart form appear on TV occassionally, go to Brussels alot and visit the odd branch if there is time.
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Originally Posted by T.N.Warry:
WE will NEVER get enough MPs at Westminster in time. So the stategy and tactics need to be specific to getting us out the EU asap. Who can get us out the EU? Westminster - so we MUST concentrate all our efforts in INFLUENCING Westminster. Pressure pressure pressure needs to be applied in the right places as well as educate educate and educate the public. On this last point you need healthy branches and loads of support and encouragement from the centre. UKIP couldn't even manage a LT leaflet in time. UKIP has no policy under Nigel apart form appear on TV occassionally, go to Brussels alot and visit the odd branch if there is time.

So join a pressure group not a political party.
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Originally Posted by Richard Allen:
So join a pressure group not a political party.

No thank you sir! I want out the EU and not some airy fairy dream of power in 20 years time!

UKIP should be the vehicle to help get the UK out the EU. Mores the shame it has achieved the square root of FA in that deptment.
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