Sponplague resigns from UKIP

Originally Posted by SponPlague:
Why couldn't UKIP nationally have got its act together, plugged this initiative in Independence News, then everyone would have known it was nationally approved and above board? And why can't I find any examples of the great newspaper to download and onpasss via the internet?

Because it is a Surrey initiative, not a national initiative. I don't think anyone has thought of putting it on the internet just yet.

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Originally Posted by mrabody:
Because it is a Surrey initiative, not a national initiative. I don't think anyone has thought of putting it on the internet just yet.

Surrey will have a stall at the Bournemouth conference for UKIP Surrey News. This is a county initiative, but Clive Page does run an eye over it for libel and to help us with layout.

The newspaper is quarterly. The branches pay 2.5 pence per copy. The print run for Surrey in July was 82,000.

Cornwall has its own edition, with local Cornwall news replacing the Surrey news.

All other counties are welcome to have their own edition. Let's speak about this at the conference.

If anyone wants a copy of issue 3 in pdf format, please phone and ask. 01932-873557.

Toby Micklethwait, Chairman, UKIP Surrey

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Hi, Toby! Any reason why the newspaper isn't available as a download on the UKIP Surrey website?

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This sounds like a great initiative and it is typical of the usual suspects to gripe about it.

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Richard thank you for your earlier comment. GC makes the point that I commented on another poster, he conveniently forgets that there has been what one could almost describe as a 'campaign' to undermine my contribution to this forum, some of it involving moderators who I would have thought by definition should be above such things. As a moderator of several sites I never engage in what could be described as inter member 'spats' unless it is necessary to protect the forum, I would certainly never take an active part or take sides.

Returning now to the Surrey paper, you are quite right the usual suspects once again try to put this initiative down, and GC as you wanted a reminder about posting un true comments, it was your post about Surrey and this newspaper. They weren't seeking funding they were seeking to provide a very reasonably priced periodical to other regions, that should be applauded not derided.

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Originally Posted by Richard Allen:
This sounds like a great initiative and it is typical of the usual suspects to gripe about it.

I hope you don't mean me! I'm just suggesting that it should be on the Surrey website, for download, too!

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BobFM: To imagine that anyone takes you sufficiently serious, to launch a campaign against you, is rather sad. Your contributions have no greater or lesser significance than those of any other 'poster'. What you do appear to like, are critics who condemn you, thererby providing you with an excuse to indulge in venom and unbridled bad manners.
You seek out enemies, as a means as providing a self-justification for your patent inferiority complex. That is a common defence mechanism, and used by many others similarly affliected.

I have no objection to any branch/region initiating publicity schemes or projects. What I do say, is that care must be taken in personnel selection, where money is concerned. Where someone has already been involved with previous ventures, many aspects of which remain unexplained, a note of caution, and at times overt criticism, is justified.
Why do you find that so unreasonable, BobFM?

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Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher:

Or were you thinking of building a movement within the Tories to press for a stronger anti-EU stance?

Yes I think it could be done.

Anti-EU Tories need to wrench the initiative away from buffoons like Roger Helmer and the other obsessives and anoraks who have hi-jacked the issue.

Same types in UKIP, of course. :-)

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk:
Yes I think it could be done.

Anti-EU Tories need to wrench the initiative away from buffoons like Roger Helmer and the other obsessives and anoraks who have hi-jacked the issue.

Same types in UKIP, of course. :-)

Mike;
after twenty plus years of involvement (even if peripheral only latterly) with the Tories - you should know better. Also, knowing British politics fairly intimately too - you should know better.

The Tories as a party will never change into an anti-EU stance in their official policy.

All the evidence is, that they as committed to the EU federal enterprise as the rest. In fact have more credentials for being pro-EEC and Pro-EU than the rest.

They got us in. They put us under the yoke of the worst of the treaties by signing up to them and they have consistently voted and stated they wish us to stay in.

Even now when asked about the Lisbon Treaty and whether the Conservatives will offer a referendum if they get in: all Cameroon says is (weakly) "well it will already be ratified by then so there will be no point" - or words to that effect - meaning we shall stay in and they won't do anything about it.

I am convinced that even if faced with annihilation at the polls they will still be keeping their official policy to stay in, because that is what the real power-base behind the 'throne' of Conservatism wants. Cameroon is just following orders - like the rest did before.
With the exception of Maggie - who was thrown out on her ear when she started to get 'uppity' about Europe and its effect on Britain.

They should be totally discounted in any way as being a potential saviour of this country by moving towards anti-EU-ism. They will never do it.

DED.
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