Briefly:
Last August my Dentist asked me write to the Secretary of State regarding the appalling contracts they have to endure. The Dept. of Health came back with marvellous results from one Primary Care Trust. Only by January this year did I find it was my very own PCT in South Yorkshire.

Since then I have been trying to extract how they have taken 7,000 patients off the list whilst NHS website have stated for months no NHS practice has taken patient any on except one (Genix).However PALS, the Patient Advice & Liaison Service state Genix has not officially taken anyone off the waiting list.

My own enquiries found a dentist practice of 5 practitioners, lost 2 last year to private work and can't recruit replacements for the same reason.
So is letter 26 April 2007 written by someone living in a cuckoo clock and are the figures just massaged. And is this a form of deception.

Ian C

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As regards dental treatment the myth of the multibilliion NHS providing free treatment for all is over.You have to be very rich or very poor to afford anything but a check up in dental treatment in UK in 2007. My rare "NHS" dentist said "what would you do" as he broke all the NHS rules re treatment charges . I could only agree with him.

New Labour in action , screwing the public whilst taxing us up to the hilt.
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It's not so much 'screwing the public' as being clear our/my Primary Care Trust with a NHS budget in millions of pounds, personnel at the top of the tree are making up statistics which are clearly not distorted but totally untrue.

The Secretary of State at the Department of Health has been warned not to accept these statistics but of course, the political interest is to want to believe Doncaster PCT data.

Ian C
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A formal complaint has now been lodged with both the local PCT and Department of Health.

The one for broadcasting massive reductions in patient waiting lists without supporting evidence (AKA propoganda) and the Minister for accepting the information without questioning it's integrity. (Information AKA lies and deceit)

Apparently the manager in charge of NHS dentistry compilitions at the PCT has a very vivid imagination.



This doesn't help:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6711379.stm

Originally Posted by :
Lester Ellman, of the British Dental Association, said quotas would be "unfair and unworkable".

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Many dentists on the NHS in the past got rich on drill and fill and we are living with the greed of these people.

There has to be a better way but I wouldn't trust the LibLabCon trick to find it
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Originally Posted by :
we are living with the greed of these people

Checked on this and do not agree.

GP's are happy thank you, Hospital doctors are not.
Find me a dentist who will work NHS for the privelage, not for money.
There is no surprise when there is a national shortage of skilled labour in NHS practices.

Top management of our PCT have spent months convincing me otherwise.
This top management is running our Health Service.
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The new agreement is nonsense.

Originally Posted by :
From 1 April 2007 you pay one of the following three charges:

Band 1 course of treatment

£15.90 - This covers an examination, diagnosis (eg: x-rays), advice on how to prevent future problems, and a scale and polish if needed.

Urgent treatment when you need to see a dentist immediately also costs £15.90.

OR

Band 2 course of treatment

£43.60 - This covers everything listed in Band 1, above, plus any further treatment such as fillings, root canal work or if your dentist needs to take out one or more of your teeth.

OR

Band 3 course of treatment

£194 - This covers everything listed in Bands 1 and 2 above, plus crowns, dentures or bridges.

These are the only dental charges your dentist should ask you to pay when you are having NHS treatment.

I can see a lot of people deciding to save the money and not visiting the dentist at all.

It is a fallacy to say that we get free NHS treatment. My own Dentist always has Friday's off, I haven't yet discovered if this is to treat private patients. I know that they are not taking any more NHS patients.

I am off to the Dentist today to have a root canal done. I hate it. :evil:
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Originally Posted by :
Urgent treatment when you need to see a dentist immediately also costs £15.90.

My, and many other dentists refuse to do this.
Thank the Dept. of Health for, what is effectively working to rule.
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My best friend is a dentist.
I look after his macs, he looks after our teeth.
Who gets the best deal? He does! By many hours, but I'd rather have a dentist that I can trust implicitly. We have a great laugh when I'm in his chair!
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Ian C

Originally Posted by :
Quote:
we are living with the greed of these people

Checked on this and do not agree.

So in the past when investigated the dentists who drilled out healthy teeth and then filled them because of the way they were paid were not being greedy - just fiscally prudent
Shame about the healthy teeth of the people involved
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