Is non-sectarian nationalism anathema in Britain?

Traditional and right-wing Conservatives say that Britain must be a (Protestant) Christian nation at all costs with an established Church even if hardly anybody participates in that religion. Modern day nationalism is becoming increasingly anti-Islamic and pro-Christian.

Could a non-sectarian nationalist organisation ever become a serious force or would it be regarded as a joke?
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A nation without Christ would soon cease to be a nation as, contrary to popular belief by the Roman Catholic Church and others, God has for all eternity predestined the boundaries of nations so that differing races and religions can live peacefully apart from (but not with) each other. Multi-culturalism, multi-racialism, syncretism are the ingredients of global government and the destruction of personal, local and national independence.

Without standards, without responsibility, without Christianity (i.e., Protestantism), any nation is acutely vulnerable to takeover.
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Originally Posted by ENGLISH UNIONIST:
A nation without Christ would soon cease to be a nation as, contrary to popular belief by the Roman Catholic Church and others, God has for all eternity predestined the boundaries of nations so that differing races and religions can live peacefully apart from (but not with) each other. Multi-culturalism, multi-racialism, syncretism are the ingredients of global government and the destruction of personal, local and national independence.

I don't see the logic to this. Nations existed centuries before Christianity existed and so did the concepts and principles of nationalism.

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Without standards, without responsibility, without Christianity (i.e., Protestantism), any nation is acutely vulnerable to takeover.

Britain is vulnerable to takeover even with an established Church. In theory it is possible for England to have a 90% ethnic Muslim population and still legally be a Protestant Christian country in a similar way that some CofE schools have a 90% ethnic Muslim population and are still CofE and not Muslim.
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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress:
Is non-sectarian nationalism anathema in Britain?

Traditional and right-wing Conservatives say that Britain must be a (Protestant) Christian nation at all costs with an established Church even if hardly anybody participates in that religion. Modern day nationalism is becoming increasingly anti-Islamic and pro-Christian.

Could a non-sectarian nationalist organisation ever become a serious force or would it be regarded as a joke?

The BNP is a non-sectarian Nationalist party.
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Catholics, Jews, Protestants and Atheists must be united in the struggle for survival our Nation and People face.
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Nationalism is a modern phenomenon that begins in the 1800s. Religion has far longer cultural and historical roots.
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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism:
Catholics, Jews, Protestants and Atheists must be united in the struggle for survival our Nation and People face.

what about Muslims?
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Originally Posted by ENGLISH UNIONIST:
A nation without Christ would soon cease to be a nation as, contrary to popular belief by the Roman Catholic Church and others, God has for all eternity predestined the boundaries of nations so that differing races and religions can live peacefully apart from (but not with) each other. Multi-culturalism, multi-racialism, syncretism are the ingredients of global government and the destruction of personal, local and national independence.

Without standards, without responsibility, without Christianity (i.e., Protestantism), any nation is acutely vulnerable to takeover.

If God has predetermined the boundaries of nations for all eternity presumably we have no need of the Army?

Forgive my lack of Faith but I feel a lot happier with the borders defended by submarines loaded with Trident and Red Bull than by supernatural forces.

Moreover where does this leave say Carthage, the Navajo or Bohemia? Is the guy asleep on the job or what?
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Originally Posted by Olympic Flame:
Nationalism is a modern phenomenon that begins in the 1800s. Religion has far longer cultural and historical roots.

I beg to differ. We can trace nationalism back into prehistory, with the classic example being that of Israel, thirteen tribes = one nation.

Nationalism has existed as a force as long as its opposite imperialism has, or in other words since the beginning of civilization in Mesopotamia six thousand years ago.

The statement that nationalism begins in the 1800s is clearly refuted by the fact that by 1800 much of the world was already divided into fully developed nation states and had been for centuries.

Nationalism is not an ideology, it is a force of nature based on intrinsic hardwired human behavioral patterns. Deal with it, because it isn't going away anymore than gravity is.
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Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP:
I beg to differ. We can trace nationalism back into prehistory, with the classic example being that of Israel, thirteen tribes = one nation.

Nationalism has existed as a force as long as its opposite imperialism has, or in other words since the beginning of civilization in Mesopotamia six thousand years ago.

Absolutely.
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